Jesse Ausubel on Energy Abundance, Affordability, and a Green Future

On this episode of The Miller Report: Real Clear Journalism, Maggie Miller sits down with Jesse Ausubel, Director of the Program for the Human Environment at Rockefeller University, to discuss the future of energy, environmental realism, and what America’s energy system could look like in 2030 and 2050.

 

Ausubel explains why affordability remains central to any successful energy transition and argues that “richer is greener” when it comes to environmental progress. The conversation explores the rise of hydrogen and the continued role of natural gas, and the dangers of pursuing energy systems that fail economically. Ausubel also discusses protecting underwater infrastructure, energy abundance, and why he remains optimistic about the future. This conversation took place at the 2026 RealClear Energy Future Forum.